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		<title>By: Pedro</title>
		<link>http://nomadicrider.com/2008/08/has-ubuntu-lost-its-relevance-why-does-it-suck-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-37203</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 01:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late addition to this post, Ubuntu now up to 11.10, is still blowing chunks.  i am not new to computers, but not fluent in linux per se. i replaced my wifi card so it could config, then spent 4 days trying to get BASIC nvidia drivers installed.  This has been hella lame. i can&#039;t believe it doesn&#039;t work.  hundreds of redundant forum pages still don&#039;t leak the right answer, and even if they did that doesn&#039;t make any sense, how hard should one have to try to get their fundamental hardware running properly? how many different programs and command lines and tweaks should it take? (answer: none for starters), Hate to say it Windows 7 is a dream next to this, even xp beats it hands down. 

There is no clear documentation (or path) for what needs to be done from the source, so screw em. Though I have figured out what needs to be done to some things, it was very much on my own and the community was useless, and i am still not satiated in the least.  Ubuntu has totally put me off linux platform yet again, after having endured red hat of yesteryears i would preffer that to this new incarnation of hell on earth. ubuntu i did try ya, would not even buy ya... (even for free)

ubuntu is only a bargain if you think your time is worth nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late addition to this post, Ubuntu now up to 11.10, is still blowing chunks.  i am not new to computers, but not fluent in linux per se. i replaced my wifi card so it could config, then spent 4 days trying to get BASIC nvidia drivers installed.  This has been hella lame. i can&#8217;t believe it doesn&#8217;t work.  hundreds of redundant forum pages still don&#8217;t leak the right answer, and even if they did that doesn&#8217;t make any sense, how hard should one have to try to get their fundamental hardware running properly? how many different programs and command lines and tweaks should it take? (answer: none for starters), Hate to say it Windows 7 is a dream next to this, even xp beats it hands down. </p>
<p>There is no clear documentation (or path) for what needs to be done from the source, so screw em. Though I have figured out what needs to be done to some things, it was very much on my own and the community was useless, and i am still not satiated in the least.  Ubuntu has totally put me off linux platform yet again, after having endured red hat of yesteryears i would preffer that to this new incarnation of hell on earth. ubuntu i did try ya, would not even buy ya&#8230; (even for free)</p>
<p>ubuntu is only a bargain if you think your time is worth nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason im reading this is because I wondered what was wrong. Im not an idiot who can&#039;t use a pc. Thank you for the heads up.. ubuntu really does suck.. I am advising anyone: just don&#039;t waste your time. Peice of crap 10.4 just sucks.... get it? Don&#039;t work! Duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason im reading this is because I wondered what was wrong. Im not an idiot who can&#8217;t use a pc. Thank you for the heads up.. ubuntu really does suck.. I am advising anyone: just don&#8217;t waste your time. Peice of crap 10.4 just sucks&#8230;. get it? Don&#8217;t work! Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Martizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave up on ubuntu after it mysteriously stopped recognising or finding drivers for my WiFi card and refused to install them even from the Terminal...  The first time I installed it, everything worked out of the box just great.   Second time... I don&#039;t know what the hell happened but even the Software center wouldn&#039;t work properly!

I&#039;ve tried installing again several times but I can&#039;t seem to get past this half-baked half-working version that&#039;s installing compared to my previous set-up -_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up on ubuntu after it mysteriously stopped recognising or finding drivers for my WiFi card and refused to install them even from the Terminal&#8230;  The first time I installed it, everything worked out of the box just great.   Second time&#8230; I don&#8217;t know what the hell happened but even the Software center wouldn&#8217;t work properly!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried installing again several times but I can&#8217;t seem to get past this half-baked half-working version that&#8217;s installing compared to my previous set-up -_-</p>
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		<title>By: Sharninder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharninder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good that Ubuntu works for you.

I have no problems with Ubuntu and the most of the people commenting on this post have misunderstood me. What I have tried saying is that Ubuntu does not work for me and *I think* that it sucks and I&#039;ve mentioned the reasons why I think so. 

I&#039;d be really happy if Ubuntu succeeds and would even be willing to work with them to solve the issues that I&#039;ve been facing. Anything for a better linux world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good that Ubuntu works for you.</p>
<p>I have no problems with Ubuntu and the most of the people commenting on this post have misunderstood me. What I have tried saying is that Ubuntu does not work for me and *I think* that it sucks and I&#8217;ve mentioned the reasons why I think so. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be really happy if Ubuntu succeeds and would even be willing to work with them to solve the issues that I&#8217;ve been facing. Anything for a better linux world.</p>
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		<title>By: jonny on thespit</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonny on thespit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has not been my experience. My experience has been positive. In fact I am an IT guy that works for a small company and I Convinced my boss and coworkers we should give ubuntu a shot. We use it on servers and workstations. Ubuntu has afforded our company some low cost, low headache solutions to lots of problems. No licensing headaches. No virus worries. Cron automation of our backup system using rsync and SSH. And a learning curve much kinder than than any other flavor of linux. I have no complaints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has not been my experience. My experience has been positive. In fact I am an IT guy that works for a small company and I Convinced my boss and coworkers we should give ubuntu a shot. We use it on servers and workstations. Ubuntu has afforded our company some low cost, low headache solutions to lots of problems. No licensing headaches. No virus worries. Cron automation of our backup system using rsync and SSH. And a learning curve much kinder than than any other flavor of linux. I have no complaints.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharninder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharninder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hugo: I agree with you. The idea about writing this post was basically to vent my frustration and also start a dialogue with like minded people. Too bad that too many people thought I&#039;m against the concept of Ubuntu. No, I&#039;m not. Infact, I still use and love Ubuntu for what it is. 

But, I stand by my comments and also believe that updating an entire distribution every 6 months is not the best way. 6 months is too short a time to implement all of the ideas in Mark&#039;s vision and bugs are bound to creep in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hugo: I agree with you. The idea about writing this post was basically to vent my frustration and also start a dialogue with like minded people. Too bad that too many people thought I&#8217;m against the concept of Ubuntu. No, I&#8217;m not. Infact, I still use and love Ubuntu for what it is. </p>
<p>But, I stand by my comments and also believe that updating an entire distribution every 6 months is not the best way. 6 months is too short a time to implement all of the ideas in Mark&#8217;s vision and bugs are bound to creep in.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your comments are a good incentive for future improvements of Ubuntu.
Nevertheless, I am a common user, in my profession I use my laptop lake some guys drive their cars without knowing the details of how it works. I am using Ubuntu since 2006. Yes, I had my headaches with some problems with graphic card and wifi. It is not perfect but I have found solutions for each problem on my own in the Internet. More: since 2006 I have not needed to format the disk (in Windows I had to do it once or twice a year) and I had choose to make only one major upgrade, and just because I want to use a PCMCIA 3G communication card.
I believe this is the path for the future of personal computing. Even if it still has allot of room for improvements.
In a short term I will need to change my laptop. Not because is too slow for the actual system (like it is happening in Windows) but because it is really getting wear (lines on the display, CD/DVD drive not working properly after 15/30 minutes, battery costing near a new laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your comments are a good incentive for future improvements of Ubuntu.<br />
Nevertheless, I am a common user, in my profession I use my laptop lake some guys drive their cars without knowing the details of how it works. I am using Ubuntu since 2006. Yes, I had my headaches with some problems with graphic card and wifi. It is not perfect but I have found solutions for each problem on my own in the Internet. More: since 2006 I have not needed to format the disk (in Windows I had to do it once or twice a year) and I had choose to make only one major upgrade, and just because I want to use a PCMCIA 3G communication card.<br />
I believe this is the path for the future of personal computing. Even if it still has allot of room for improvements.<br />
In a short term I will need to change my laptop. Not because is too slow for the actual system (like it is happening in Windows) but because it is really getting wear (lines on the display, CD/DVD drive not working properly after 15/30 minutes, battery costing near a new laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: Has Ubuntu lost it??s relevance - Why does it suck so much ! &#124; Prosumer News</title>
		<link>http://nomadicrider.com/2008/08/has-ubuntu-lost-its-relevance-why-does-it-suck-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Has Ubuntu lost it??s relevance - Why does it suck so much ! &#124; Prosumer News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sharninder</title>
		<link>http://nomadicrider.com/2008/08/has-ubuntu-lost-its-relevance-why-does-it-suck-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharninder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dag: That is an interesting thought and I&#039;d tend to agree. Infact, I&#039;m surprised why I don&#039;t see free enterprise grade distributions being praised more for exactly this reason.

On the flipside, we have already moved on the debian in my family and even though Debian doesn&#039;t call itself enterprise grade, I have no reason to believe it isn&#039;t so. The stable tree of Debian gets security updates only and the OS doesn&#039;t stress the hardware too much. What more can a *normal* computer user want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dag: That is an interesting thought and I&#8217;d tend to agree. Infact, I&#8217;m surprised why I don&#8217;t see free enterprise grade distributions being praised more for exactly this reason.</p>
<p>On the flipside, we have already moved on the debian in my family and even though Debian doesn&#8217;t call itself enterprise grade, I have no reason to believe it isn&#8217;t so. The stable tree of Debian gets security updates only and the OS doesn&#8217;t stress the hardware too much. What more can a *normal* computer user want.</p>
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		<title>By: Dag Wieers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dag Wieers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you mentioned your mother I couldn&#039;t resist posting this message

I am part of the CentOS promotion team and we tell people that 99% of the people that use computers probably have to look into an Enterprise Linux distribution.

Why ? Because 99% of the people do not need an new update every 6 months and an Enterprise Linux distribution is supported (and does not change) for 7 years. That means for 7 years you mainly get security updates and little to no application changes.

And that is exactly what most people need. Unfortunately when I tell this at conferences, I am usually talking to the 1% of the people that are technical, fancy the latest applications and may be part of the Open Source development community.

But those people are exactly the people I want to address. Those are the people that decide to put Linux on the computer of their mother or other family members that simply want to use the computer, not upgrade every 6 months and break new things.

So while Enterprise Linux distributions often cost a lot of money, CentOS is an Enterprise Linux that is free and offers those advantages for free. You will not get the latest and greatest software, but for someone who simply needs to use the computer, for whom a computer is a means, not the goal, an Enterprise Linux like CentOS is sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you mentioned your mother I couldn&#8217;t resist posting this message</p>
<p>I am part of the CentOS promotion team and we tell people that 99% of the people that use computers probably have to look into an Enterprise Linux distribution.</p>
<p>Why ? Because 99% of the people do not need an new update every 6 months and an Enterprise Linux distribution is supported (and does not change) for 7 years. That means for 7 years you mainly get security updates and little to no application changes.</p>
<p>And that is exactly what most people need. Unfortunately when I tell this at conferences, I am usually talking to the 1% of the people that are technical, fancy the latest applications and may be part of the Open Source development community.</p>
<p>But those people are exactly the people I want to address. Those are the people that decide to put Linux on the computer of their mother or other family members that simply want to use the computer, not upgrade every 6 months and break new things.</p>
<p>So while Enterprise Linux distributions often cost a lot of money, CentOS is an Enterprise Linux that is free and offers those advantages for free. You will not get the latest and greatest software, but for someone who simply needs to use the computer, for whom a computer is a means, not the goal, an Enterprise Linux like CentOS is sufficient.</p>
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